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How to Use "Myself" and Other Reflexive Pronouns
Episode 40: February 09, 2007

Legal Lad here, filling in again for Grammar Girl. The poor girl is still sick. She asked me to thank everyone who has sent "get well" messages. She appreciates them a lot.

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Today's topic is how to use the word myself. Grammar Girl says that how to use myself is among the top 10 or 20 questions that people send in to the show. Here's an example:

Hi, Grammar Girl. This is Chuck Tomasi, your interim Grammar Guy from ChuckChat.com, home of podcasts too numerous to mention. I hear and see examples of the misuse of the word myself all the time. For example, an e-mail went out from HR like this, “Please contact Squiggly, Aardvark, or myself with questions.” Could you please help listeners know when the word myself is appropriate and when to use a more appropriate word? Thanks!

Excellent, Chuck! Let's dissect what's wrong with that sentence: "Please contact Squiggly, Aardvark, or myself with questions." The simplest way to think of it is like this: How would you say the sentence without Squiggly and the aardvark? Then it usually becomes obvious! You would say, “Please contact me with questions,” not, “Please contact myself with questions.” So when you add in Squiggly and the aardvark, that doesn't change anything. It's still correct to say, “Please contact Squiggly, aardvark, or me with questions.”

Digging into the topic a little deeper, myself is what's called a reflexive pronoun. That can be hard to remember, but just think about looking into a mirror and seeing your reflection. You'd say, “I see myself in the mirror.” You see your reflection, and myself is a reflexive pronoun.

Other reflexive pronouns include himself, herself, yourself, itself, and themselves. A reflexive pronoun is always the object of a sentence; it can never be the subject. Grammar Girl has talked about it before, but a subject is the one doing something in a sentence, and the object is the one having something done to it. If I step on Squiggly, I am the subject and Squiggly is the object.

You would never say, “Myself stepped on Squiggly,” so you would also never say, “Aardvark and myself stepped on Squiggly.”

Another case where it is correct to use myself is when you are both the subject and the object of a sentence. For example, “I see myself playing marimbas,” or, “I'm going to treat myself to a mud bath.” In both of these cases you are the object of your own action, so myself is the right word to use.

Reflexive pronouns can also be used to add emphasis to a sentence. (In case you care, they are then called intensive pronouns.) For example, if you had witnessed a murder, you could say, “I myself saw the madman's handiwork.” Sure, it's a tad dramatic, but it's grammatically correct. If you want to emphasize how proud you are of your new artwork, you could say, “I painted it myself.” Again, myself just adds emphasis. The meaning of the sentence doesn't change if you take out the word myself; it just has a different feeling because now it lacks the added emphasis.

There you go! The quick and dirty tip is to think about how you would write the sentence if you were the only one in it, and then use that pronoun. For example, “Please contact me.” That's where people get most hung up using myself. And then you can also remember that it's OK to use reflexive pronouns for emphasis and when you are the object of your own action.

We have an excellent book giveaway this week, but first Grammar Girl also asked me to send a special thank-you to Mr. Rish's Enriched English 10 class at Newark High School in Ohio, and especially to a student named Brandi, who wrote and recorded  a story imagining how Grammar Girl spends her time. Grammar Girl says it cheered her up when she was feeling low.

The book we're giving away this week is Words of a Feather: A Humorous Puzzlement of Etymological Pairs, by Murray Suid. If you're interested in the origin of words, I think you'll enjoy this book, because it examines pairs of words that seem unrelated but have similar roots; for example, grammar and glamor. It was interesting because Stewart from Hawaii had just called in to note that grammar and glamor have the same origin and then this book showed up with more details. Grammar, over the years, has meant the study of literature, then the study of Latin, then the study of magic and astrology, and it is at this point in history when the word glamor arose as a corrupt form of grammar. Glamor then went on to take on the meaning related to beauty and charm that it has today, while grammar went back to relating just to language.

The publisher was very generous and provided four books for our giveaway, so the winners are Corey from Atlanta and listeners named Stephanie, Jean, and Cheryl. Congratulations and please check your e-mail for instructions. Again, that book is Words of a Feather, and for people who didn't win, it will be available on the Grammar Girl website at quickanddirtytips.com.

Thank you for listening. Again, I'm Legal Lad, the host of Legal Lad's Quick and Dirty Tips for a More Lawful Life, filling in for Grammar Girl. My show this week gives you tips for what to do if you're pulled over by the police in the United States, and you can find it right now at QuickAndDirtyTips.com or at iTunes.

Questions and comments for Grammar Girl go to feedback@quickanddirtytips.com or the voice-mail line at 206-338-GIRL (4475).

Mr. Manners talks about wedding gift etiquette.


Comments (39) for How to Use "Myself" and Other Reflexive Pronouns |  Subscribe to Comment

Hudson Says:
11/14/2008 11:28:22 AM
Your podcast rocks. Thanks so much for everything. Get well soon. Please contact Me or myself. I guess that I am still a bit slow. GET WELL:)
Hudson Says:
11/14/2008 11:23:30 AM
Thank you for taking up for grammar girl. Get well soon.
Lauren Says:
9/30/2008 6:51:42 PM
This lesson is great! I have just recently started listening to your podcasts and I really do enjoy them. Though I didn't think so at first, they've become quite handy. I'm currently a sophomore in high school and taking a class in journalism. One day, we were going over grammar and correcting sentences. I was the only one that knew that "myself" was reflexive and couldn't be used in the sentence. I believe it was similar to one you had mentioned. Something like, "Please do not hesitate to contact the staff or myself". Anyway, the teacher was really impressed and I earned extra credit for knowing it! Thank you Grammar Girl for keeping my grades afloat!
John Miller Says:
8/5/2008 6:54:51 PM
What is the correct usage of the pronoun "them." I hear it used for objects, animals and persons. Thank you
Cyndi Says:
7/30/2008 1:26:54 PM
I have tried desperately to find the origin and accepted use of a common phrase in Alabama: is it "I caught myself looking" or "I called myself looking"? I have always heard it was "caught" but everyone around me is now using "called." I suppose it could mean "I [even] called myself" when I was trying to find some elusive item; however, I cannot find this anywhere in print and it is really beginning to annoy me ... lol. This is a great site - thanks for all you do!
Sam Says:
7/29/2008 10:57:19 AM
This is rapidly becoming my all-time biggest grammar peeve. People seem to think using "myself" in place of me (especially in the workplace) is somehow more formal. Drives Me NUTS!
Jet Says:
7/5/2008 2:14:46 PM
Hello grammar girl! Thank you for making your talent accessible! My question refers to the phrase "from throughout" as in "representatives from throughout Croatia." I used this in a report to identify that the people came from different parts of BiH; my supervisor deleted it, stating that I had used a double preposition and that is improper use of English. Can you confirm his statement and help me to figure out why and how to avoid this in future?
james Says:
4/10/2008 10:25:28 PM
Hey Grammar Girl hope you are felling better. Hope to hear from you soon.
Kristin Says:
3/20/2008 1:53:47 AM
Tricia, it's "Beef! It's what's for dinner." The slogan is trying to tell you that it is beef that is for dinner. "Its" is not a reflexive pronoun for "it," it is a possessive pronoun. "Its what's for dinner" actually doesn't make any sense, even if you reword it. The reflexive pronoun for "it" is "itself." You could say, "Beef gave itself dinner," which makes sense in a strange kind of way, even though beef generally doesn't give itself anything, but might give you an early heart attack if eaten in excess. :)
Dinner Question Says:
11/1/2007 6:02:04 PM
Is it "its" or "it's" in the slogan: Beef! It's what's for dinner. Could it be either one? If it is "its" isn't it a reflexive of Beef? And if it's "it's" isn't it it is? Beef--its what is for dinner? Beef--it is what is for dinner? Please advise. Thanks, Tricia
Monica Says:
10/24/2007 8:53:51 AM
I guess I'm still confused about the use of myself in this situation "For example, “Please contact me.” That's where people get most hung up using myself. And then you can also remember that it's OK to use reflexive pronouns for emphasis and when you are the object of your own action." Is it proper to say "Please contact me" or "Please contact myself"?
Magningning Says:
9/16/2007 12:04:36 PM
The problem is that people have come to see "me" as some kind of dirty word akin to "ain't," with the belief that only uneducated hicks use it in any situation at all. People think that by using "myself" or "I" in cases where "me" is actually correct, they sound more educated and higher class. It drives me crazy.
Lee Says:
5/30/2007 7:03:55 PM
Ouch! Actually, "me" would never come first - "Jesse and me" could possibly be correct, but as a response to who is coming to visit, I feel the correct response is "Jesse and I". This makes sense if you consider that the response is just a fragment of the complete sentence "Jesse and I (are coming for a visit)".
Nicole Says:
5/2/2007 5:45:38 PM
Is this 'grammar girl' only in an audiobook or can you buy it as a real book like to read in because I come from Denmark an I just want to read the book and not listen to it :)

Hope some one can help me?!

Hugs from Denmark, Nicole

KT Says:
4/7/2007 5:05:00 PM
I have a question about the following paragraph, which was copied and pasted directly from http://grammar.qdnow.com/2007/01/31/myself-grammar.aspx:

"The quick and dirty tip is to think about how you would write the sentence if you were the only one in it, and then use that pronoun. For example, 'Please contact me.' That's where people get most hung up using myself..."

There's not enough information here for me to know definitively what you mean. Should I always use "me" or can I use "myself"?

BTW, do I put a comma before and after "definitively"; and is my placement of the puntuation, outside of the qoute mark, correct? I put it outside, because it "made sense", since I wouldn't italicize the question mark if I'd italicized the last word. I'll look forward to hearing your answers. Thanks!, and I think your site is fantastic; extremely useful!

kate Says:
3/31/2007 11:52:25 PM
was always taught that food was DONE and children were FINISHED.Have they changed the rule? All I ever hear is "I'm done". I try to correct the kids but they look at me like I'm "DONE". What is the rule??? thanks,k You were great on OPRAH -----
Peter Williams Says:
3/31/2007 10:24:09 PM
I wonder if you can help clarify something I’ve unable to find answered in any grammar book. I was trying to find out when it’s correct to finish the sentence prior to dialogue with a comma (John knocked on the door loudly[COMMA] “I know you’re in there!” he shouted.) and when a period considered proper usage ( (John knocked on the door loudly[PERIOD] “I know you’re in there!” he shouted.) Love the podcast, by the way.
Norman Ackerman Says:
3/31/2007 4:58:19 PM
This is about the design of the website, not the content, Please make the font a darker color, preferably black. I gave up trying to read your blog because the low contrast made the effort too difficult.
danielle taress Says:
3/30/2007 2:21:53 PM
Saw or Seen??? please help
Jenn Says:
3/30/2007 2:53:22 AM
"Jessi and I went shopping" is indeed correct, but the answer to "Who would be coming to visit?" is "Me and Jessi" This is a common mistake in New Zealand. And replacing with myself is also very common. Basically, if anyone uses myself instead of I in those sentences, they're wrong. Plain and simple...
Emerald-Jane Says:
3/29/2007 5:03:59 PM
I grew up(in a British colony) knowing to say, for example " Jessi and I went shopping" Or, "Who would be coming to visit?" Answer: "Jessi and I" I've heard people in the United States say myself instead of "I" in the way I used "I" in the sentences above. Who's right or wrong and is there such a thing as British english rules and American english rules? 2nd question: I ask because I once learned (I would have spelled it as l-e-a-r-n-t)that when you use a conjunction, a comma isn't needed. I guess these are two questions in one. Thank you
Grammar Girl Says:
3/28/2007 4:55:29 PM
You are correct. In addition, "affect" is usually a verb, but less commonly it is a noun. I had to keep things very simple and short for the TV show. (Also, I meant to say "most of the time," but I was really nervous and forgot.) I covered the topic in more detail in the podcast.
Molly Says:
3/28/2007 1:35:07 PM
On the Oprah show you said that effect is always a noun. Not so! It can be used as a verb also as in "he effected a change"
Virginia Says:
3/27/2007 10:55:56 PM
My pet peeve is the misuse of pronouns. In particular, so many well educated say "If you agree, give Mark or I a call". By the way, if you could make the text bolder on this site, I would appreciate it very much. It is very hard to read.
carol Says:
3/5/2007 5:53:38 PM
Oops. Re: question about use of reflexive pronoun, "myself.": Forgot to add in question just posted--I'd appreciate Grammar Girl or some other knowledgeable grammarian to email me at pretera4447@yahoo.com THANKS!
carol Says:
3/5/2007 5:46:42 PM
question about use of reflexive pronoun, "myself." A well-known author with a best-selling book used myself in the following way: I made breakfast for myself and my wife. This did not seem right to me although the HE was the subject and the object. When a second person is included in the object, is it still correct?
John Faherty Says:
2/20/2007 10:16:47 PM
My name is John Faherty. I am a reporter at The Arizona Republic in Phoenix. This week, I will be interviewing the Grammar Girl for a story. I would love to "chat" with any of you regarding why you enjoy this podcast. If you are interested/willing please email me at john.faherty@arizonarepublic.com. Thanks. John
Cynthia Says:
2/19/2007 7:13:49 PM
Hi Grammar Girl, a question from an expat living in the Netherlands, listening to your podcasts. It seems like people don't use ENOUGH reflexive pronouns. My pet peeve is sentences like, "I did it for me!" I'm convinced that should be: "I did it for myself!" Would love to hear your comments.
jk Says:
2/17/2007 9:28:23 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I don't know how many times when I have been writing and wasn't sure how to use a particular word or grammar rule. You made is so quick and simple and so, so accessible! Too wordy? Hehehehe. Thank you, again!
Dave S Says:
2/15/2007 3:21:37 PM
Why is your logo so pixelated, when your grammar is so smooth? It doesn't represent the quality of your program at all. I'd be happy to help with that if you'd like.
John Says:
2/13/2007 8:30:16 PM
I think that "this is just between ourselves" is fine, and I found some examples on google. It does seem to be controversial... http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002774.html
Ron McKenzie Says:
2/13/2007 8:27:08 PM
Grammar Girl, I really enjoy listening to your podcast, you help keep my little gray cells alive and alert. Keep up the good work. Out of curiosity, which came first the Aardvark mouse pad or Aardvark as Squiggly's assistant?
Drew Says:
2/13/2007 6:03:51 PM
For "between ourselves", wouldn't that be in the case where you'd say "We'll keep this between ourselves"? In that case, isn't "we" the subject, in which case the subject and object are indeed the same? Or would it be appropriate to say "This is just between ourselves"? I would think you'd go with "This is just between you and me" or maybe "This is just between us".
John Says:
2/12/2007 11:28:22 PM
There are cases when it is completely acceptable to use a reflexive pronoun without a same-clause antecedent: for instance "between ourselves" in the sense of "confidentially".
Drew Says:
2/12/2007 8:25:35 PM
There's a section of the podcast that I think is a little bit confusing. You state that "myself" can only be used as the object in a sentence, but then don't go on to clarify in what cases it should be used as an object. (You would never say, “Myself stepped on Squiggly,” so you would also never say, “Aardvark and myself stepped on Squiggly.”)
Holly Says:
2/11/2007 6:41:20 PM
Grammar Girl! I have a brilliant idea for a new podcast...what about Dining Diva? She could travel to snazzy restaurants, answer questions about the culinary world, talk to chefs, etc. If you need a volunteer for this job, I will be graduating from college in June. :) Get well soon!
Ryan from Tampa Says:
2/10/2007 9:10:54 PM
hey grammar girl! get better soon! With legal lad, I always feel like I'm being corrected by the teacher for bad grammar. :)
Ritesh Says:
2/10/2007 5:56:12 PM
It's really annoying when people start their introductions with 'Myself'. For example, "Myself XYZ...". If I am not wrong that is another misuse of the word.

Miss you Grammar Girl. Get well real soon.

Ben Says:
2/9/2007 7:38:43 PM
Great post and examples. I wrote about some other examples here, although you, as always, are much more polite about things.

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