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Apostrophe Catastrophe (Part One)
Episode 32: December 22, 2006

Grammar Girl here.

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Today's topic is apostrophes.

When I was in second grade, I lost a spelling bee because I misspelled the word its. I put an apostrophe in when I shouldn't have, and it was a very traumatic moment in my young life. So when listeners including Katy from Australia, Kristi from Washington, D.C., Amy, and Jon wrote in asking me to talk about proper apostrophe usage, I had a flicker of self-doubt.  But I think this lesson is burned into my mind precisely because of my past misdeeds, and although I can't change my past, I feel the next best thing would be to save all of you from similar apostrophe-induced horrors.

Apostrophes have two main uses in the English language: they stand in for something that's missing, and they can be used to make a word possessive.

Apostrophes first showed up in the 1500s as a way to indicate omissions. Today, the most common place to find this kind of apostrophe is in contractions such as can't (for can not), that's (for that is), and it's (for it is*), but they can also be used in fun ways. If you're writing fiction, you might use apostrophes to eliminate letters to formulate a character's dialect; for example, "I saw 'em talkin' yonder," with apostrophes to indicate that the speaker said 'em instead of them (t-h-e-m), and talkin' instead of talking (t-a-l-k-i-n-g).

It's no wonder that people are confused about apostrophes, because new uses were introduced in the 1600s and again in the 1700s (1), and it wasn't until the mid-1800s that people even tried to set down firm rules (2).

One major new use for the apostrophe was to indicate possession. For example,  the aardvark's pencil, where there is an apostrophe s at the end of aardvark, means that the pencil belongs to the aardvark. It does not mean the plural of aardvark, and it does not mean "The aardvark is pencil."

An interesting side note is that it doesn't seem so strange that an apostrophe s is used to make words possessive once you realize that in Old English it was common to make words possessive by adding es to the end. For example, the possessive of fox would have been foxes, which was the same as the plural. I assume that caused confusion, and someone suggested replacing the e with an apostrophe to make fox's in the possessive case. So apostrophe s for the possessive case was initially meant to show that the e was missing, and then the idea caught on and everyone eventually forgot all about the missing e.

Now, normally, I would assume that most people understand apostrophe basics and move on, but there are too many examples to the contrary for me to ignore them.



For some reason, people seem especially prone to apostrophe errors, and most especially people who write signs and flyers. Katy sent me a photo (which you can see on the blog) of a sign in a vegetable market advertising “Banana's $1.50.” Banana's apostrophe s, as though a banana was carrying around pocket change. The apostrophe before the s makes the $1.50 a possession of one lucky banana.

I also would have given anything to have had a camera with me when I came upon a menu advertising “Ladie's Night,” L-a-d-i-e-'-s night. I'm assuming the proprietors meant “Ladies' Night,” but I have this image in my mind of the restaurant providing free entry to one particular laddie.

The bottom line is that whenever you are using apostrophes, especially if you are making signs or flyers, take a second and a third look at them to make sure you're doing it right. Do you want to make your noun possessive, or are you making a contraction?

The sad problem is that what we just talked about is the simple part. There's so much to say about apostrophes that this is going to have to be a two-part series. I'll tackle the really tough stuff next time.

I want to end with an overview of the word that caused me such torment in second grade: its. Confusing the two forms of its is a very common mistake. It's can mean "it is" when an apostrophe is used to make a contraction, but its, i-t-s-no-apostrophe, is a possessive pronoun just like hers, ours, and yours, none of which take an apostrophe.

Every time I see those ubiquitous eBay commercials with three-dimensional its** standing in for products, I feel like the its are out to get me. So maybe that can help you remember to use special care when confronted with its. I think Amy summed it up best, saying, “Only use the apostrophe when it's is short for it is.” It's really that simple. I-t-apostrophe-s always means "it is"; it has nothing to do with possession, no matter what those eBay commercials say about acquiring possessions.

That's all. To cap off this first installment about apostrophes, I have a fabulous song written by a listener named Eileen Thorpe. And I'll play it right after this message.

Now, Eileen must have also been affected by some kind of apostrophe trauma because she wrote these words, which are sung to the tune of “Oh Christmas Tree” by Rahel Jaskow of Jerusalem, Israel.

Apostrophe (Oh Christmas Tree)

by Eileen Thorpe

Apostrophe, apostrophe
You drive me oh so batty.
Apostrophe, apostrophe
Your overuse is a travesty.
Some people just can’t get enough
They must think you’re hot stuff
Apostrophe, apostrophe
Some rules to avoid catastrophe.

It’s hers and theirs and yours and its
when you want to possess a bit
And when you need to pluralize,
You don’t need to apostrophize.
And what of words that end in esess?
An apostrophe will only make a mess’s.

I wonder why you so confuse
I’m sure you’re tired of this abuse.
Apostrophe, apostrophe
You drive me oh so batty.

 
Wasn't that fabulous? Thanks again to Eileen Thorpe and  Rahel Jaskow. You can check out Rahel's blog Elms in the Yard, at http://elmsintheyard.blogspot.com/, and listen to clips from her award-winning CD, Day of Rest, at http://cdbaby.com/cd/rahel/, and those links will be in the Grammar Girl blog at QuickAndDirtyTips.com.

This week's winner in the Grammar Girl book giveaway is Stef from Minneapolis, Minnesota. Stef wins a book called German English Words: A Popular Dictionary of  German Words Used in English by Robbin D. Knapp. This is a neat book that has entries for words such as kindergarten, diesel, waltz, and shyster that are used in English but originated in German. There's even a fun picture on the back of the author wearing lederhosen. I have two more of these to give away, and, as always, you can also purchase the book using the links at QuickAndDirtyTips.com.

Congratulations to Stef, thank you to Robbin Knapp for donating the books, and happy holidays to everyone.

* A listener named Paul correctly pointed out that it's can also stand for it has.
** Some people would argue that I could have used an apostrophe here to clarify that I meant multiple instances of the three-dimensional it, but in light of the topic of this transcript, I think it would have caused more confusion than clarity. For a further discussion of using apostrophes in unusual constructions, see the Third Use page of the Apostrophe Protection Society's wiki.

References

  1. Burchfield, R. W, ed. The New Fowler's Modern English Usage. Third edition. New York: Oxford, 1996, p. 61.
  2. Cavella, C., and Kernodle, R.A.  How the Past Affects the Future: The Story of the Apostrophe.  http://www.american.edu/tesol/wpkernodlecavella.pdf (accessed December 21, 2006).


Further Reading

Apostrophe Protection Society

Poll Results

 


Comments (46) for Apostrophe Catastrophe (Part One) |  Subscribe to Comment

Albert Says:
3/11/2008 8:24:52 PM
Nikki may be correct when she says that Jane Austen used the apostrophe in words like "her's" and your's" [...there is a part of me that wishes we'd go back to using the possessive apostrophe in words like her's, their's, your's. It was good enough for Jane Austen, then I'm all for it.] But, if the apostrophe were being used to show the equivalent to "of me", "of you", etc, then surely the pronouns would be "me's", "you's", "her's", "him's", etc?
Julia Says:
12/5/2007 5:53:08 PM
Regarding Richard's comment: The subject of names on or around family homes and mailboxes etc. has come up recently in my world. For years, I've been annoyed every time I've seen a sign outside of a house that said something to the effect of "the Hathaway's." My understanding is that if the sign is implying "this is the house belonging to the Hathaways," it should read "the Hathaways'." If the sign is to mean "this is the house belonging to Hathaway (one guy named Hathaway), the "Hathway's part of the sign would be correct, but the "the" would make no sense. Can someone address this and let me know if I'm right or not? I would feel retroactively stupid for all the times I've corrected people on this, but, for my own peace of mind, would like to know. Thanks so much for this site; I love it!
Lize Lubbe Says:
12/4/2007 12:53:35 PM
How does one show possession for the word "business"? It belongs to the business, therefore it is the business's Is this correct? Please help. Lize, Cape Town South Africa
Grammar Girl Says:
11/24/2007 11:29:47 PM
JS, an apostrophe is a different mark from an opening or closing single quotation mark (even though an apostrophe looks just like a closing single quotation mark). You use an apostrophe to indicate that letters are missing in a word like "'em," (and an apostrophe looks like a closing single quotation mark). I feel as if I'm being a little argumentative here, but the answer really is to use an apostrophe -- neither the opening or closing single quotation mark are correct. An apostrophe only faces one way.
Grammar Girl Says:
11/24/2007 11:18:48 PM
Bob, I just covered your question about whether companies should be referred to as "who" or "that." (In general, a company is a "that.")
Grammar Girl Says:
11/24/2007 11:15:59 PM
Paul, Yes, the way you are writing possessives is incorrect. It should be "Dad's car," for example.
Bob Says:
11/22/2007 3:05:26 PM
In Kevin's comment of 12/22/2006,"We are a professional transcription service company who specialize in providing tailored transcription service to the podcasters." What's the rule on use of "who" or "that"?
TL Lull Says:
11/19/2007 9:40:36 PM
What's that you smell? Meaning: What is it that you smell? I found this usage in the Nov. 2007 POPULAR SCIENCE magazine on page 52, just prior to the end of the first paragraph. So...O' Apostrophy O' Apostrophy how could you let them do you for two...(sic)
Paul Says:
11/19/2007 1:11:24 PM
Back in the early 60's I was taught to show possession as follows: Pauls' toy, Dads' car. Is this incorrect?
Richard Says:
10/30/2007 12:33:31 PM
Sarah/Amy, To me, the apostrophe is an indicator of the family name. If the family name is Smith and the card was signed as from the The Smith's (residence is the understood object of the possessive), my understanding is then that the family name is Smith, not Smiths. If I said, "I passed by Smith's today," would it not be written and punctuated the same as if I had said, "I passed by Andy's (house) today"? This whole conflict came up after the death of Christopher Reeve when various new organizations reported on Christopher Reeve's death but one local affiliate reported that Christopher Reeves had died. Thus, the sign outside the Smith's home, for those who do not know the family's name, provides a correct family name when written as "The Smith's" (house is understood) as opposed to "The Smithes" which would indicate five family members, a dog, and a cat. (hmmm? comma after "dog" or no comma after "dog"? Isn't grammar fun?
Nadine Says:
10/25/2007 10:51:51 PM
Why do most people use an apostrophe after "Do" in Dos and Don'ts. If the apostrophe belongs after do, should it also then be "Don't's"? Or is it "Do's" because the apostrophe is there for a missing "e"?
JS Says:
9/27/2007 9:25:30 PM
When presenting an abbreviated word like 'em or 'cause, do you use the open-quote apostrophe or the close-quote apostrophe? Stylistically, it's not possible to rephrase this to avoid it (a whole noir novel). I'm thinking close-quote. Can you help? I can't find an official rule on this.
Grammar Girl Says:
4/29/2007 10:00:40 PM
A listener called DK wrote in with the following comment:

"On your first show about apostrophes, you said that the apostrophe came from an original 'es' at the end of the word to show possession; and the apostrophe was used to distinguish between the form foxes (plural) and foxes (possessive). Since most regular plurals don't have an 'es' for plural as does fox/foxes, I'd suggest a slightly different explanation. The plural of chair was chairs, and the possessive of chairs was chaires. In order save a (slight) bit if ink and time, the possessive was simply abbreviated by removing the 'e' and replacing it with an apostrophe."
Sarah Says:
4/22/2007 10:24:02 PM
Amy - I am with you on this one! I don't think it is an opinion. My brother in law signed his Christmas card "The Smith's". I was the only one who recognized and pointed out the error!
Amy Says:
4/6/2007 8:57:21 PM
I've always noticed when friends write to me that they use my last name and put in an apostrophe and I believe it's incorrect. For example: if you're writing to the Smith family and you address it: The Smiths, no apostrophe is needed, correct? I can't tell you how many times I see it written as: The Smith's, as if they owned something as opposed to more than one Smith. Can you confirm my opinion on this?
David B Says:
4/6/2007 10:51:06 AM
A mnemonic I learnt as a child for the question of its vs. it's was that the apostrophe would either be for Omission or Possession. 'O' comes before 'P' and thus "it's" is for the omission ("it is").
Anne Says:
4/2/2007 4:01:02 PM
I am a teacher and am wondering which is correct: Mrs. Ross' class or Mrs. Ross's class Mrs. Ross' book or Mrs. Ross's books Ross' family dog or Ross's family dog
jennifer Says:
3/30/2007 6:40:40 PM
Mrs. Maerz's Class Is this written correctly?
Karen Says:
3/28/2007 2:32:34 PM
I work for a large corporation that uses many acronyms. I am constantly editing FTE's to FTEs, SME's to SMEs, etc. These signify individuals or groups in the plural, not ownership of any kind. Would you agree?
David Koch Says:
3/27/2007 3:22:35 PM
I am guessing that whether you use an apostrophe after a date i.e. 1500's, 1970's must be a style choice
Sean Says:
3/22/2007 12:40:46 PM
You could always rephrase to "Please send the numbers for Bob, John, and Maria." Often rephrasing solves the problems that we run into. (into which we run?)
Maria Says:
3/22/2007 9:40:08 AM
What is the correct way to concisely request, in one sentence, the unique number (or is it numbers) belonging to each of three people? Should I write:

Please send Bob, John, and Maria's numbers? (Possessive only on the last subject noun; object noun plural.) This seems incorrect because I don't want Bob and John -- just their numbers!

Please send Bob's, John's and Maria's numbers? (Possessive on each subject noun; object noun plural.) This sounds incorrect -- like listening to Looney Tunes' Sylvester the Cat.

Please send Bob, John and Maria's number? (Possessive only on the last subject noun; object noun singular.) Each person only has one number, but I want three numbers in response, so shouldn't the word number be plural? And again, I don't want Bob and John, just their numbers, so shouldn't their names be possessive?

Please send Bob's, John's, and Maria's number. (Possessive only each noun; object noun singular.) This would seem to indicate that the three people possess one number in common, rather than having three separate numbers.

By the way, I included the "extra" comma between John/John's and Maria to indicate that they are not a couple, but are separate entities with separate numbers. Is this correct?

Thanks.

Maria
Michele Says:
3/16/2007 6:32:59 PM
Hi... LOVE this site. I'm an editor and love anything that adds a sense of fun to grammar. I once committed reverse tagging: There was a white board outside a hair salon announcing "walk-in's welcome". I just wiped off that little apostrophe. My mom's best friend is an English teacher and self-proclaimed "apostrophe police". She once asked the staff in a hospital cafeteria what the "bowl's" and "tray's" owned. She was met with a puzzled "huh??". Anyway... keep up the great job!
Mat Says:
3/5/2007 12:20:11 AM
My favorite: Hole n'' the rock, UT
Grammar Girl Says:
2/15/2007 8:39:08 PM
I covered "affect" versus "effect" back in October. :-)
yona Says:
2/15/2007 8:30:41 PM
can u do a podcast about affect and effect. my teacher keeps making this mistake and im sick of it.
Grammar Girl Says:
2/14/2007 4:05:04 PM
According to Dictionary.com it is Master's degree: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/masters%20degree
Bethany Says:
2/14/2007 3:35:53 PM
Which is correct?
"Enhance your career with Masters Degree."
or
"Enhance your career with a Master's Degree."
I need help - fast!
lia Says:
2/14/2007 1:37:49 AM
When you are trying to decied wether to use dive or dove.......You should use dove when you are trying to tell someone...... when you are using dived you are making a sentence out of it......
Dan Says:
2/13/2007 10:17:02 PM
Great site! As a non-native speaker (isn't there a proper antonym for native speaker?) I must say that the wrong use of apostrophes really bugs me. Especially since this is one of the more clearly regulated parts of the English language. However, English is not the only language where apostrophes are frequently and horribly misused. For example, this stuff is getting worse by the day in Germany. Here, it startet with the use of apostrophe-s in possessives (which do *not* have an apostrophe in German) and has gone on to include plurals and other absurdities. There must be something special about this little character that makes it so prone to misuse. As a side note, the music to Eileen's song is actually about as old as the apostrophe in the English language. It is a traditional that can be traced back to the 16th century, although with varying lyrics. Incidentally, the melody is also Maryland's state anthem, which is frequent cause for amusement to visitors from Germany, where this has been, among others, a popular Christmas song since the early 19th century :-)
Todd Demangone Says:
2/9/2007 6:06:31 PM
just listened to you explanation of "hung" versus "hanged". So, here is another question. Which is it, "dove" or "dived"? Please help.
:Peter Johnson Says:
2/3/2007 6:30:10 AM
Oh, the irony! Shouldn't that be, "Here's a rare example of a sentence WHOSE meaning changes...."?
:Peter Johnson Says:
2/3/2007 6:30:10 AM
Oh, the irony! Shouldn't that be, "Here's a rare example of a sentence WHOSE meaning changes...."?
Richard Says:
1/26/2007 8:09:10 PM
After reading your comment, I fully understand your aversion to apostrophes (no apostrophe required!).
Nikki Says:
1/25/2007 2:10:19 AM
I know I'm late to the discussion, but better late than never, right? I, too, adore the apostrophe and shudder at abuses committed against it. However, there is a part of me that wishes we'd go back to using the possessive apostrophe in words like her's, their's, your's. It was good enough for Jane Austen, then I'm all for it. Perhaps using the posessive apostrophe along with possessive pronouns would actually help people remember its proper function.
Jeremy Says:
1/23/2007 3:19:45 AM
Shouldn't the spelling in the song be "esses", not "esess"?
Sean Says:
1/22/2007 3:08:19 PM
For completeness can you remind everyone that "its'" (i-t-s-apostrophe) is NEVER to be used?
(Or if it is, please tell me when!)
Fraser Says:
1/7/2007 10:14:44 PM
The worst apostrophe crime I ever saw commited was in a Marks and Spencer store in the UK. We tend to call popsicles "lollies" in this country, but on the freezer near the checkout, the sign said " lolly's " - thus breaking two rules at once: forgetting to change to ie and using an apostrophe to pluralise! It wasn't even a handwritten sign either - it was a company-made billboard with logo and everything!
Grammar Girl Says:
12/27/2006 7:01:11 PM
Oh dear! You're right on both counts.
Jeff Almquist Says:
12/27/2006 6:37:00 PM
Hi Grammar Girl. I love your show! A couple of things in the episode on apostrophes (#32) caught my attention. You said "...as though a banana was carrying around pocket change." Shouldn't that be "...as though a banana were..."? The banana isn't carrying around pocket change, so shouldn't the subjunctive mood be used? You also said "...none of which take an apostrophe..." Shouldn't that be "...none of which takes..."? Since "none" is singular, shouldn't you use the singular form of the verb, "takes"?
Bonnie Says:
12/27/2006 6:09:56 PM
I love your podcasts! As a high school teacher, I find your topics relevant and applicable to the lessons I teach to my students. Thank you for sharing your tips with us each week.
Colin Says:
12/26/2006 7:51:48 PM
I got your joke, but wouldn't "Ladie" with one "d" be pronounced the same as "lady?" My understanding of English pronunciation is that you'd need the double consonant to shorten the "a" to be like the "a" in "laddie." Take it from someone whose name is an exception to that rule (pronounced, and often misspelled, "Collin", rather than like the punctuation or unpleasant body part that its spelling would suggest).
tobias robison Says:
12/25/2006 12:46:33 AM
I'm against apostrophes, and here's what I said about them at: http://precision-blogging.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_archive.html#1439601410000695134

Apostrophe's: In English you can always tell when someone misuses an apostrophe. Thats because apostrophes are never required to remove ambiguity. Theyre pointless, lets get rid of them. I'm even willing to compromise: Why not allow apostrophe's in spoken English but remove them from written English.(Apologies - I dont quite have the nerve to take my own advice in this blog. Might look declassé you know.)

Here's a rare example of a sentence who's meaning changes depending on whether you write "it's" or "its": Never drink wine before its time.
Bryan Lee Williams Says:
12/24/2006 10:50:30 PM
One of my biggest pet peeves is misplaced apostrophes. Apostrophes replacing left out letters should be placed where the missing letters would have been. Some examples that I see often are the following: Ca'nt, Ya'll. I interpret these as "Ca not" and "Ya will" which are obviously silly. When someone finds out what Ca or Ya are, please let me know.
Masha Babyonyshev Says:
12/24/2006 4:26:24 AM
I may have been mistaken about Grammar Girl making the "there/there's" error (in the voice comment that I left today)...but I still think that that would be a great subject for the show! (As would be the topic, "What does one do when one must use two 'that's in a row?"
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12/22/2006 10:26:05 AM
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