Episode Transcript

Proofreading Tips
Episode 21: October 20, 2006

Grammar Girl here.

Today's topic is proofreading.

Here's a question from Corinne that's pertinent to a news story that came out yesterday:

 

I have always had a problem of with my writing I forget the word "the" or I forget to put an "ed" on the end of a word, and it's not because I don't know to do it, but as I type I just seem to forget to put that there. I continue to read over it, I don't find anything, but this has come back to bite me a couple times. So I am wondering if you have any helpful suggestions that you might be able to provide me for how I could improve my writing skills, so when I'm actually typing something, when I go back and reread it that if I forget the word "the" or "of"  or something to that extent, that I actually find it. It's always hard to go back and proof your own writing. And especially with today's technology age, when you have to send out e-mails rapidly with only a response back, I was wondering if there's a way, or something that you do in particular, that helps you with that function.

Well Corinne, the Bank of Kazakh* is probably wondering the same thing, because Reuters and the BBC are reporting that someone at the institution misspelled the word bank on its newly released notes, and they were printed and entered into circulation. So, they have a big, embarrassing proofreading problem.

Before we go any further, I do have some tips, but I also have to say that I feel like a fraud for covering this topic, because I make as many errors as everyone else, and sometimes typos slip through. I try so hard, but typos seem to evade me with impunity. As my father would say, "If you miss one typo, all the others will know," implying that I will forever be an easy mark for sneaky, calculating typos that are out to get me.

So, given my long history with typos, it has become my belief that it's nearly impossible for someone to accurately proofread their own writing and be consistently successful. Think about it: If I produce 1,000 words a day, and I let 1 typo slip by every week, that's actually a 99.986% success rate. If you think about it in terms of letters rather than words, since most typos happen at the level of letters, that 1 typo a week equates to about a 99.997% success rate.

Anyway, I know that's kind of a silly example because for native English speakers every letter isn't a typo waiting to happen, and typos are bad and can get you in a lot of trouble; but my point is that even though you should do your very best to catch them, I also think it's important not to beat yourself up too badly when they happen and to realize that human error is inevitable.

The real key to avoiding typos is to have someone else proofread your copy, and this actually also relates to a question that at least one other person asked, which is if I could discuss the poor state of writing on the Internet.

In addition to the fact that most people don't get a good grammar education, I believe a significant reason you see so many typos and errors on web pages is that most web copy never gets reviewed by anyone but the writer before it goes live. By contrast, copy that you see in newspapers and magazines (in addition to being written by professional writers) goes through an extensive editing process. After a writer turns in a story, it's usually reviewed by multiple editors, including the department editor who assigned it, a senior editor, and a copy editor. Of course these editors all have more training in grammar and writing than the average person writing a blog, and even if you consider text on a commercial website, in my experience, these companies tend to run lean editorial departments and may only have one editor looking at copy before it goes live.

So my primary advice on avoiding typos is to have someone else proofread your work. On the other hand, I know this isn't possible for things like e-mail or rushed projects, so here are four proofreading tips I've collected over the years.

 

1)Read your work backwards**, starting with the last sentence and working your way in reverse order to the beginning. Supposedly this works better than reading through from the beginning because your brain knows what you meant to write, so you tend to skip over errors when you're reading forwards.

2) Read your work out loud.  This forces you to read each word individually and increases the odds that you'll find a typo. This works quite well for me, and most of the typos that make it into my transcripts seem to be things you wouldn't catch by reading aloud, such as misplaced commas.

3) Always proofread a printed version of your work. I don't know why, but if I try to proofread on a computer monitor I always miss more errors than if I print out a copy and go over it on paper.

4) Give yourself some time. If possible, let your work sit for a while before you proofread it. I'm just speculating here, but it seems to me that if you are able to clear your mind and approach the writing from a fresh perspective, then your brain is more able to focus on the actual words, rather than seeing the words you think you wrote.
 
That's all on proofreading. If anyone has other proofreading tips, please post them in the comment section of the Grammar Girl transcripts at quickanddirtytips.com. I can always use more proofreading tips, and I'm sure everyone else would appreciate it too!

Moving on to another topic, two people have asked me to clarify the pronunciation of the word etcetera. It is pronounced et-cetera, with a t sound, and not ek-cetera as I apparently said in a previous show. Two of my dictionaries define etcetera as meaning "and so forth," and it's my understanding that in Latin,  et cetera means "and the rest" or "and the others," and it is written out as two words: et and cetera. Although the use of etcetera in English is obviously adopted from the Latin phrase, you write it out as one word, etcetera, in English. [Note: See my correction and clarification in the comments. GG] You generally use it at the end of a list of items to indicate that the list could contain more items and for some reason you didn't list them. Here's a title that uses etcetera: "Question words: who, what, where, etc." And, etcetera is abbreviated etc. So, I've said etcetera enough times now that I hope everyone is clear on the pronunciation.

That's all.

As always this is Grammar Girl. I've included links in the transcripts to pictures of the Cyrillc and Kazakh alphabet because a mix-up between the two was the source of the error on the Kazakh bank notes.  There's also a new poll in the Grammar Girl section of quickanddirtytips.com asking whether you think you are a good proofreader or a bad proofreader. Finally, thank you for listening, and for participating in the audience survey. There have been enough responses now that the results are statistically significant, which is great; and also thank you for your reviews and donations. I really appreciate every little thing you all do!

Links

Cyrillic Alphabet
Kazakh Alphabet


*This should read the Bank of Kazakhstan.
**Backwards may be the British form of the word. Some references say backwards is only used in Britain, and that Americans always use backward. The Oxford English Dictionary makes a distinction between the meaning of backwards and backward, and based on those definitions I chose to use backwards.

Note: I proofread this once on the computer screen and twice on paper (the second time after making minor changes), and when someone else proofread it he still found that a to was missing.


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Kathy Says:
10/22/2008 12:03:02 PM
Speaking of proofreading, when my girls were in high school they were in the marching band a trip was planned to go Arizona to be in the Fiesta Bowl Parade. We were so excited and had sweatshirts made for everyone. The sample proof was taken to the band meeting for the others to proof. They all said it looked great. We had the shirts made and printed the names of our school and city on the back of the shirts. During dinner one night, as we were all wearing our shirts, one of the girls noticed that JUPITER was misspelled. It was spelled JUPTER instead. All we could do is laugh and start misprouncing the word incorrectly too. Just shows you even if several people proofread, there can still be a mistake.... Take heart we are all human!
mark Says:
10/14/2008 6:29:18 PM
As a high school English teacher, proofreading is often an unpleasant part of a job I love. One idea I recomend is for students to ask a friend or family member to read the work out loud to the student. In addition to the second reader catching a few mistakes, this process also helps identify sentences that are unclear; often the student will hear the error that he missed when reading his own paper.
Don Price Says:
10/12/2008 3:11:36 PM
In my first newspaper job it was drummed into us that we should *always* pass our finished work to someone else - anyone else - to see if it made sense. The office cleaner was sometimes the only one free to do so; she took great delight in finding our literals (known as typos in the USA), errors of grammar, ambiguities and general infelicities.
Phillip Says:
10/9/2008 11:34:18 AM
Anyway, I know that's kind of a silly example because for native English speakers every letter isn't a typo waiting to happen, and typos are bad and can get you in a lot of trouble, but my point is that even though you should do your very best to catch them; I also think it's important not to beat yourself up too badly when they happen and to realize that human error is inevitable.
Denise Hall Says:
9/12/2008 2:03:27 PM
Similar to the tip of reading your work backwards, reading your work upside down (which is, in essence, upside-down AND backwards) forces you to read each word individually as it is typed. I don't think you can replace the value of having someone else proofread your work after you have proofread it and made the corrections you found. However, not everyone is a good proofreader! This person should be a "detail person," who will read your work carefully, and will be able to spot all types of errors, as well as be able to read the piece and know if something stated is incorrect or does not "read right."
Tina Rosen Says:
8/30/2008 9:41:43 PM
I just discovered this site. It's great! I have to say that this particular article is confirmation of what I have taught my high school English students for thirteen years. All of the tips here are the exact tips I have given my kids. They are sound and worthwhile. Thanks!
Shuji Says:
8/11/2008 5:17:38 AM
Hello from Japan, Grammar Girl! A few years ago in a writing class at the UT Austin, I was advised to print the manuscript to different color of papers. For the first draft, use yellow. For the second, use orange. Third draft, use green, etc. In this way, my text looks as if it was written by someone else, and I can proofread my text more objectively. Changing font may be good, but it will change the position of the word from one line to another (sometimes even to another page), and it is time consuming to find the error locations in the original documents on the computer screen. So I found the font trick is not so useful. But the color paper trick surely works.
Clara Says:
8/1/2008 4:08:49 PM
I'm proofing a book and the central character spends a lot of time thinking to herself. Should I use quotation marks as if she were talking out loud, or should I eliminate them altogether? This is my first time to visit your website, and I think I'll make a shortcut so I can access your suggestions at the drop of a hat. Thanks, Clara
Lauren Sloan Says:
7/28/2008 8:13:36 PM
Hi Grammar Girl, I have a question regarding the word "gotten". When and how would you use it? I also fing the pronunciation of the word "height" in the US as though it is spelt "heigth". Which is correct?? Thanks Lauren
Mary Says:
7/28/2008 4:45:02 PM
I find when proofing, if I touch each word with a pencil as I'm reaading, I'm able to find many errors I'd normally miss. This improves attention to each word and helps me find words that may be missing.
Sarabeth Says:
6/17/2008 9:18:10 AM
Here's a tip I got from a professor a few years ago when I was working on my Masters. Of course, try to get the work done a day or two early, then print it out in a different font. For some reason, having it look different makes it seem like someone else's work.
Linda Larson Says:
6/4/2008 11:45:05 AM
Hello, Words are my passion. My friends are always telling me I should seek employment that allows me to frolic in the world of words I love so much. What training should I pursue? Is there a good program you would recommend? Thanks for your wonderful site. I eat it up with coffee every morning!
Brenda Simmons Says:
5/30/2008 4:56:42 PM
When I was in school we punctuated etc with etc., (period comma). I understand now it is just a period?
reinaldo tinn Says:
5/28/2008 9:33:54 AM
well is the first time i visited the page i hope I can use more end more time congratulation for you end your friends.
the english patience Says:
3/31/2008 12:04:09 PM
Hi Grammer girlfriend, I have a question about the appropriate nature of correcting others. I have a friend who just can NOT help herself and corrects people all the time.The problem is two fold. One is that she is often wrong and two that she is totally annoying in her quest. How can her friends let her know how inappropriate it is to continually correct people?
kandii Says:
3/26/2008 10:59:08 AM
well it seems like every one here has auh promblem with writen well i do to.im use to writen with slang but yeah i'm working on my writen but this web page is helping me out."thank you" every one that help me out i read most of all these comments you guys left well yeah peace...
Katie Says:
3/24/2008 8:48:27 PM
I used to proof read ballots. We used two people to proof read the draft ballot. One person would slowly read the words aloud from the draft ballot while the second person matched what was being read aloud to the original source document. It was time consuming but extremely accurate.
Edward Says:
2/13/2008 8:30:16 PM
1. Use an opaque ruler under the line you are reading and move it down line by line. Works wonders. 2. For common typos, use the AutoCorrect function in Word. I have programmed "fm" to become "from" and I never get "form" anymore.
Edward Says:
2/13/2008 8:29:38 PM
1. Use an opaque ruler under the line you are reading and move it down line by line. Works wonders. 2. For common typos, use the AutoCorrect function in Word. I have programmed "fm" to become "from" and I never get "form" anymore.
phaeton Says:
1/31/2008 8:30:56 AM
"the right to bare arms"? or arm's?
Albert Says:
1/14/2008 7:59:04 PM
I'm with Joe Weintraub on words I keep typing incorrectly. I often find "you" when I meant "your", and "form" when I meant "from". My other "favourites" are "di" for "did" and "phot" for "photo". I also seem to hold the shift key down too long when I type "We" and frequently get "WE". There have been many good suggestions, but so many of us think that we haven't the time to check properly. But that does not excuse the many contributors who have addressed their comments to "Grammer Girl".
Albert Says:
1/14/2008 7:50:11 PM
Let's not forget that there is another Latin phrase,"et alia", which can be abbreviated to "et al.", that means "and other things". So you shouldn't use "et cetera" to means "and other things".
saba Says:
12/5/2007 2:56:01 PM
i need really good tips for next year when im in junior high. i need help on my grammar a lot please help me
Savannah Says:
12/4/2007 8:24:28 PM
Dude! I like grammer girl, thats part of our school homework!!!
me Says:
11/26/2007 1:40:33 AM
Anonymous Says: 7/3/2007 1:24:53 AM I was suprised to see that you made an obvious grammatical error on this episode. In the fourth paragraph, you said "...impossible for someone to accurately proofread their own writing..." I am sort of disappointed that you would not realize that "someone" is a singular pronoun and therefore needs another singular pronoun (their is a plural pronoun) such as "his/her." Miss/Mr Anonymous, don't be sad, please read GG episode 29 and you'll know it wasn't a grammatical error; it's a style.
John Says:
11/15/2007 4:45:03 PM
This is my first visit to the Grammar Girl site (after reading a story about it in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. And what do I find? Repeated misuse of the term "proofreading," by both visitors to the site and GG herself. If we're going to talk about proofreading, let's get clear about what that is. A proofreader simply makes sure that the words that have been set in type match the words that the writer put on paper. If was valuable work back when typesetters had to take copy that was produced on a typewriter and turn it into leaded type that could be printed. I will concede that good proofreaders (at least in non-union shops) saved many a newspaper reporter from awful errors by spotting them and pointing them out. But that wasn't really part of the job. With the demise of hot type, almost all copy goes from the writer to one or more editors to type, or, in some cases, from the writer to type without ever passing through the hands of an editor. But in any event, the topic being discussed here is "editing," not "proofreading," since the errors in need of correction were introduced by the the writer, not by someone else setting the writer's words in type.
David Says:
8/15/2007 12:29:42 AM
I agree with Tom. I first found out about software that converts text to audio when I had to read a mound of books. Since then I have used this software to listen to my technical manuals while I drive. I personally prefer TextAloud with the AT&T Natural Voices plug-in. I have found numerous errors that I had previous just read over without noticing. PS GG, I LOVE YOUR PODCASTS!
Pankaja Says:
7/25/2007 9:35:52 AM
One more tip on proof-reading. Running a spell check often helps. I may intend to write "of", but may end up writing "o". Spell checks help to capture such typos. -Regards, Pankaja
Anonymous Says:
7/3/2007 1:24:53 AM
I was suprised to see that you made an obvious grammatical error on this episode. In the fourth paragraph, you said "...impossible for someone to accurately proofread their own writing..." I am sort of disappointed that you would not realize that "someone" is a singular pronoun and therefore needs another singular pronoun (their is a plural pronoun) such as "his/her."
KCrandall Says:
5/30/2007 7:19:51 PM
If you are looking for an empowering writing program that might involve your entire community, check out either the National Writing Project or one of its many local affiliates. The NWP seeks to promote relevant, realistic writing community wide. I was a secondary English teacher for several years. During that time I had the wonderful opportunity to work with The National Writing Project.
Cag Says:
5/29/2007 10:41:02 AM
I would like tips on how to proofread while I am transcribing medical reports. The emphasis is on speed, and also when I release a job it is gone forever. Help!
Comen Says:
5/21/2007 8:06:45 PM
A proof copy is a version of a manuscript that has been typeset after copyediting. Proof typescripts often contain typographical errors introduced by mistyping (hence the word typo to refer to misplaced or incorrect characters). Traditionally, a proofreader checks the typeset copy and marks any errors using standard proof correction marks (such as those specified in style manuals, by house style, or, more broadly, by the international standard ISO 5776, or, for English, the British Standard BS-5261:2). The proof is then returned to the typesetter for correction, and in many cases the production of a second proof copy (often known as a revise). The term proofreading is sometimes used incorrectly to refer to copy-editing. This is a separate activity, although there is some overlap between the two. Proofreading consists of reviewing any text, either hard copy (on paper) or electronic copy (on a computer) and checking for typos and formatting errors. This may be done either against an original document or "blind" (without checking against any other source). Many modern proofreaders are also required to take on some light copy-editing duties, such as checking for grammar and consistency issues. http://blogs.officezealot.com
laurie marrone Says:
3/28/2007 6:04:11 PM
subscribe me to this blog
Emily Says:
3/27/2007 6:20:06 PM
i liked this site cuz its mostly answered my homework 4 me but i think you need a better name that just "Grammar Girls" :)
Catherine Says:
2/26/2007 9:09:19 AM
Dear Grammar Girl: About two minutes into your 10-18-06 podcast on proofreading ("100 Proof"), you state, "....nearly impossible for someone to accurately proofread their own writing...". Now, my question is about your use of the singular "someone" with the plural "their." I simply must find out if the old-school rule of using "his/her" or "one's" instead of "their" with the singular "someone" or "anybody" is now considered obsolete. The hair automatically raises on my head each time I hear this grammar goof. Do you have a podcast which addresses this issue specifically? If so, can you please direct me to it? I would so appreciate your help in untangling my tousled tresses! Thank you.
Grammar Girl Says:
2/13/2007 12:14:47 AM
Laurie from Colorado called in to point out that I didn't mention using spelling or grammar checkers in word processing and e-mail programs. I left it out because I thought it was too obvious, but on further reflection, I have seen a lot of documents that could benefit from a run through a spell checker, so it's probably a tip worth including.
david.cauchi@oag.govt.nz Says:
1/19/2007 2:37:07 AM
I have two tips that don't seem to've been mentioned so far. The first is to hold a ruler or a blank piece of paper under the line of text you're reading. The second is to always re-read a sentence in which you've made a correction. This is to catch the typo sitting next to the one you've just caught. I would also like to reiterate GG's 'fresh eyes' comment. It's always a good idea to proof things at least twice, and the greater the amount of time between reads the better.
Grammar Girl Says:
1/10/2007 9:50:10 PM
This won't work for your specific boo-boos, but I have a solution for people who make frequent errors that aren't words (for example, I always type "pateint" instead of "patient"): if you use Microsoft Word, customize the AutoCorrect feature. About.com has an article with easy instructions.
Joe Weintraub Says:
1/10/2007 7:33:58 PM
Hi, Grammar Girl. I have found that there are specific boo-boo words that intermittently creep into my writing. These are usually the same words each time. Maybe it's when I type too fast and a letter gets dropped from a word, or maybe I have a senior moment and two letters get transposed. I'm not sure what's going on, but the same boo-boo words pop up all the time. If your readers are anything like me and find the same boo-boo words over and over again, they could start keeping a list of those words and run a search-and-replace through each finished draft. For example, two words that haunt me are 'your' and 'from'. Many times, I have found that I dropped the 'r' in 'your' and I'm left with 'you'. Maybe this is when I type too fast. My problem with 'from' is that I transpose the 'r' and the 'o' and the result is 'form'. This is my senior moment problem. By running a search on the words 'you' and 'form', I see each occurrence in the draft and I can quickly determine if ‘you’ and ‘form’ are used correctly or if I have to change them to ‘your’ or ‘from’. A side note: As I edited these comments, I discovered I typed the word 'you' instead of 'your' in the sentence above that begins "If your readers are..." You see? Even in the simplest bit of writing, I can’t get away form those boo-boo words. Darn it! I did it again.
Grammar Girl Says:
1/10/2007 2:45:48 PM
See the episode on generic personal pronouns.
Lemon Lou Says:
1/10/2007 2:20:40 PM
I have a question about agreement. You wrote: "So, given my long history with typos, it has become my belief that it's nearly impossible for someone to accurately proofread their own writing and be consistently successful." Someone to proof their? Someone singular. Their plural. Someone to proof his or her?
Ramon Says:
12/13/2006 8:11:25 PM
Dearest Grammar Girl, I am a high school English teacher and graduate student working on an MA in English Education. With all of the controversy about state mandated testing, No Child Left Behind, and closing the achievement gap, it seems teachers and administrators lost the ability to advise and direct lively and exciting writing programs. Many teachers teach to create a flawless “end products,” but they do not teach the entrancing and soul building process of writing. What would be your advice to high school teachers who would like to create a realistic and empowering writing program that the entire community might find beneficial? Keep up the good work; I am a loyal listener. Sincerely, Ramon Malik Tovar Van Nuys High School, Van Nuys, CA
Irvwill Says:
12/12/2006 5:49:04 AM
My proofreading trick is to read the document upside down. It slows me down just enough to catch my error. I love the blog.
Grammar Girl Says:
12/10/2006 5:15:01 PM
A listener named Dan just wrote in with another great proofreading tip! He writes in one word processor (such as WordPerfect) and after he runs the spellchecker in that program, he transfers the document to another word processor (such as Word) and spellchecks it again. He says that in addition to adding another level of spellchecking, this method also forces him to look at his writing a second time for errors.
Sarah Vivian Says:
12/6/2006 8:54:06 PM
I have a tip on proofreading-- you can always read the paper backwards-- not the words, but the sentences; that will make your brain process the words, rather than processing the entire paper. By the way, love ypur show!! I am only 14 and sometimes have trouble with grammar-- thanks a bunch!!
Tom Says:
11/26/2006 11:15:36 PM
I hate to sound like a purist but... Having studied Latin, I would never write "et cetera" as one word, simply because it's two words! Et means and. Cetera is the neuter plural version of an adjective that means "the other or the rest." (Stadia and media are examples of plural nouns with the same ending.) I seem to recall that in Latin you could use an adjective without an accompanying noun as a noun. In this case it would implicitly mean "other ones" or "other things." http://www.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/lookup.pl?stem=ceterus&ending= And, to be really picky, I would prefer to pronounce it with a hard c, but this would open up a debate among Latin scholars: classical versus church Latin. I realize that today, in English, that's a battle I would not fight because I'd lose. I really enjoy the podcasts, keep 'em coming!
John Stackhouse Says:
11/5/2006 6:07:40 AM
In a former incarnation, I was the deputy editor of The Bulletin,an Australian news magazine. I made it a firm rule that every page had to undergo the scrutiny of "three pairs of eyes". If I had the option, I excluded myself because I am a lousy proof-reader. Keep up the you-beaut work. John PS On quotes: Note the Australian style is to contain a part-quote before a fullstop, as in the above "three pairs of eyes". J